"Yuan Baocheng: Question of Dongguan!" broadcast on CCTV "News 1+1" on April 2014, 4 "In the show, Dongguan Mayor Yuan Baocheng said when talking about whether the porn industry will re-emerge, "We can do it, that is to say, we find that one order will be investigated and dealt with. You asked me to vote for you today and say that it will never happen. No single order is possible. Seeking truth from facts, I dare not say this today."

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(Program Guide)
Commentary:
At the two sessions this year, he was besieged by countless reporters, but he said nothing.
Yuan Baocheng Mayor of Dongguan:
I was "hehe" by the media in Beijing.
Commentary:
After Dongguan's crackdown on pornography, Mayor Yuan Baocheng accepted our interview.
Yuan Baocheng:
You asked me to pack a ticket for you today and say that one order will never happen, no one will ever happen. Seeking truth from facts, I dare not say this today.
Commentary:
The economy wants to grow, the people want to live, and the city wants an image.
Yuan Baocheng:
As a mayor, it is abnormal if there is no pressure.
Commentary:
How much impact did the anti-pornography have brought to Dongguan? "News 1+1" Bai Yansong interviewed Yuan Baocheng, the mayor of Dongguan.
Bai Yansong:
Hello friends, welcome to the recorded "News 1+1". In the first quarter, if the city most concerned about by Chinese people, Dongguan in Guangdong must be ranked very high. Today I’m in Dongguan, and I’m going to interview the mayor of Dongguan, but let’s start with the previous concerns.
Commentary:
In February this year, a series of reports on some hotels in Dongguan made the city of Dongguan become the focus of national attention. During the National Two Sessions in March, Yuan Baocheng, the mayor of Dongguan City, also became the subject of reporters competing for interviews. Under the flashlight, facing the reporters’ questions one after another, Mayor Yuan Baocheng always smiled, and this smile was also portrayed by the reporters as answering “hehe”, so the mayor of Dongguan was called “hehe” by some media. mayor". Although Yuan Baocheng responded afterwards that he was not hey at the time, but was "hey", but how did he face the "problem involving pornography" at that time? "Is the unemployment situation in Dongguan serious?" Yuan Baocheng did not give a clear answer to the questions that reporters were concerned about, such as "Can Dongguan's economy meet the expected goal of Bao Jiu".
Bai Yansong:
During the two sessions, many reporters chased and intercepted you, and then there was "Hey Mayor". In fact, you did not have "Hey Mayor" at the time. What you said was why the elevator was so slow. At that time, I was reluctant to say, why can I tell you now? How did you get out?


Yuan Baocheng Mayor of Dongguan:
Frankly speaking, first, I was not mentally prepared, because I originally thought that this incident has passed for some time, and we have also severely cracked down on it. I thought that this matter would have attention, but it would not have that much attention. Secondly, in some cases, criminals are still being hunted down. If I speak too much, it may have some impact on the detection of the case. At the same time, it is true that there are some problems with reporters on a particular occasion, and there are some problems that may be easily divergent.
Bai Yansong:
There may not be the last and most accurate data, but you should have a general idea of ​​whether Dongguan's economy in the first quarter was affected by the anti-pornography?
Yuan Baocheng:
I think this problem may be that many comrades across the country are concerned about this issue. I only got some big numbers this afternoon and just got it. So I should say that everyone is really worried about the economic impact of Dongguan after the pornographic incident. It has brought a great impact. In fact, I have always had a basic idea that the overall impact of the pornographic incident on Dongguan’s economy is not large, especially from a statistical perspective. But objectively, I think there is an indirect impact on Dongguan. It is impossible to not have it at all. You always have to consume, and the hotel must be operated. It will definitely have an impact. The figures from the statistical caliber so far are basically consistent with my previous judgment. The key point is that we now have a few particularly good figures for industrial electricity consumption. Industrial electricity consumption is our industrial electricity consumption throughout March. It has increased by a little over 3 points, exceeding my own expectations. According to a preliminary statistics from the customs, the specific figures of our exports this month have not been fully announced, but they are also ideals that I did not expect.
Commentary:
The city’s economy is behind the lives of citizens. Where does the driving force for Dongguan’s economic development come from? Just after being exposed by the media that some hotels were involved in pornography, some media also reported such a set of data. In 2013, Dongguan’s GDP rose to 5500 billion yuan, and Dongguan’s GDP includes the entire underground pornography industry and its directly and indirectly related industries, which is estimated to be about 500 billion yuan. Such a data was later reprinted and discussed by many media. Our question is, is this 500 billion data true?


Bai Yansong:
I have also seen media reports that with such a data, Dongguan’s GDP was 2013 billion in 5500. He said that the entire chain of pornography-related industries may be close to 500 billion. What do you think of this figure?
Yuan Baocheng:
To be honest, I am also very concerned about this figure, because after I saw this figure, I knew it a long time ago. I said, did your Statistics Bureau give me so many statistics? The comrades from the Statistics Bureau also said that they said it was because of us. I have never counted it, so this number cannot be said, but I think that whether it is a country or a city, it may be called a gray industry or an underground industry. Objectively, this number may exist, but the government is pragmatic, we really did not count. After this number, we have a hotel and entertainment industry, as well as a sauna and massage industry, etc. We have a statistical caliber that the overall economic output in Dongguan accounts for 1.5%, which is 83 billion. What is the concept of that 83 billion, that is, not all of the 83 billion is used to engage in pornography, gambling, and drugs. Everyone can calculate that the industry itself is not a large proportion.


Bai Yansong:
I heard a small detail and said it was very interesting. This year, Dongguan’s economic development pressure is actually greater. Why? There is such an association here. If you are not developing well, others will say, you see you Watching the porn industry hit, you are greatly affected. Only when you develop even better than before can you change people's thinking. Do you have this kind of pressure?
Yuan Baocheng:
Seeking truth from facts, I feel that as a mayor, it is abnormal if there is no pressure, but my economic development has its own laws. It does not mean that our leaders have a hot head and we develop when we shout. Our basic Judging, why I say that I have confidence in our economic development is because of the economic accumulation of so many years, especially the foundation of our transformation and upgrading in recent years. I think there is a foundation. Why do I say I don’t worry about economic development this year? Overall, I am still a little emboldened. We have only 156 major projects this year. Dongguan's export dependence rate is 173%. This year, I feel that the western economy seems to have begun to recover a little. The eastern central government basically maintains the 7% to 7.5% of the economy. These two basic figures are there, and my confidence is there. Of course, if the east and west Both numbers go down, I am a fairy, and I don't think I can control it either.
Commentary:
Shanmei Road, once the most prosperous street in Houjie Town, Dongguan City, is now sparsely populated, and many small shops have posted "shop transfer" notes.


Snack bar owner:
There are fewer and fewer people.
reporter:
How much do you think every day is less than before? What was your best time before?
Snack bar owner:
It used to be full.
reporter:
One third is empty, what about before, there was no one before?
Tenant:
It used to be full. If it was empty before, only a few rooms would be empty.
Makeup shop owner:
(Before) I queued up to make-up, and I couldn't make it, but now there are no people.


reporter:
Have you ever thought that it might be better after a while?
Makeup shop owner:
Others say so.
Commentary:
Merchants are still faintly expecting that Shanmei Road will return to its former prosperity, but the way to achieve it should not be the resurgence after the anti-pornography storm. Some of the hotels in Dongguan that have been exposed by the media are completely closed, and some have shut down the department in question. In addition, Dongguan is still carrying out a three-month anti-pornographic campaign. The leaders of the city and county public security bureaus are personally in charge. Deeply digging the protective umbrella, strictly investigating dereliction of duty, dereliction of duty, Guangdong Provincial Public Security Department also sent an unannounced visit team to use the police in different places to ensure that this action can be long-term and effective.
Bai Yansong:
We are now going back to review this matter, why do we appear passive? It was after the media exposure, we went to carry out such a large-scale removal operation, if we want to be more proactive?
Yuan Baocheng:
I have been thinking about it recently. I have been thinking about this. Why did it happen in Dongguan? I think there is one point that we also admit wrong, that is, Dongguan’s pornographic violations do exist. This is a matter not to deny or justify, but frankly speaking, it is so powerful, or as reported on TV. Even we did not expect that, it should be said that Dongguan itself should study its own shortcomings. First of all, it must admit the shortcomings of its own work. It really deserves our reflection.
Bai Yansong:
But in summarizing the many shortcomings, has one of them also entered your thinking, that is, is there a situation where you sometimes open your eyes and close your eyes?
Yuan Baocheng:
I think from the attitude of the party committee and the government, I think there should be no. This is a judgment. However, you said that among grassroots cadres and masses, including some cadres and masses, does this problem exist? I think it exists objectively. But you say that everyone thinks so, and I disagree.


Bai Yansong:
Many people are talking about it. You must have heard such a voice. How long will it be this time? Because Dongguan has been playing again and again before, but it may be one month or two months, but slowly there will be a "resurgence" with quotes. Will this time?
Yuan Baocheng:
To be honest, what I’m answering now is, at least the goal of our design, we don’t. I also read posts on the Internet, and many people even joked that wait until three months, and then go there. But our attitude is very clear this time. Three months is just a whole and a severe crackdown on this illegal behavior after the CCTV exposure. But in the long run, even three months later. , Maybe the measures we take will be even more unexpected measures. Basically, I can judge that we can do it, that is to say, we find that one order will be investigated and dealt with. You asked me to give you a ticket today and say that it will never happen, no order will be possible. Seeking truth from facts, I still dare not today. Say this.


Bai Yansong:
I noticed that in March, when you were interviewed, you used 3 characters. What should you do after you call it? The first four characters are called bone scraping therapy, and the last four are called governance by law. How to understand What about these eight characters?
Yuan Baocheng:
Yes, since the "malignant tumor", I must scrape the bone to cure the poison, scrape the malignant tumor clean, and after applying the medicine, treat it properly and heal the wound. This is the first thing I want to do. I feel that if similar major pornographic violations happen again, we feel that we are ashamed, and we will also be sorry to the people of Dongguan and the leaders of the higher-level party committee. In this respect, we feel that bone scraping to treat poison is the measure we really take. Comrade Xu Jianhua, the secretary of our municipal party committee, put forward the two "ones", what is the same as the two, whenever there is a major pornographic violation, after being exposed, our town party secretary, our police station chief, public security bureau chief, and community All branch secretaries of the party will be removed on the spot and will be investigated and punished after removal. Another "universal rule" is that all staff of our party and government agencies who are found to be involved in pornographic illegal activities will be removed from office before investigation.
Bai Yansong:
These are the first four words, scraping the bones to cure drugs, but the last four words are governed by the law, precisely when you studied law in college.
Yuan Baocheng:
I believe that most people may think that severe cracking is enough to crack down, but they can also say that cracking down is okay. It is also to crack down according to law. The key is to establish a long-term mechanism according to law. Therefore, in this case, we believe that the current pornographic illegal activities must first be cracked down on the organizers, interest protectors, and stakeholders. Of course, we must also crack down on other participants involved in pornography, and we must deal with serious cases. But we think we have to consider whether it is trial, handling, or education. There should be a variety of methods to achieve a comprehensive governance effect.
Video clip of Dongguan city image:
Inadvertently, I have fallen in love with this place. Dongguan, new and exciting blooms every day.
Commentary:
"Blooming new excitement every day", after the anti-pornographic storm in Dongguan, many people noticed that a city image promotional film containing basketball ball culture, Humen Fortress and other Dongguan elements, began to appear in many national high-speed railway stations and movie theaters such as Guangzhou South Railway Station. Line screening. So the media have speculated that they are taking this to eliminate the negative impact of the anti-pornographic storm and bring to the city, and to justify themselves.
Bai Yansong:
Just after the exposure of this and the beginning of the crackdown, everyone has noticed that whether it is from the high-speed rail, there are also many cities that have seen the image of Dongguan as a city. Many people are discussing it on the Internet. Is this right? A kind of public relations behavior in Dongguan, but we have noticed that in fact, it is not so fast to shoot an advertisement. What kind of story is behind this? Is there the kind of idea to broadcast the advertisement as soon as possible?


Yuan Baocheng:
In fact, this promotional video was broadcast more than a year ago. There are no officials or cadres in it. They are all people from all over the world, as well as foreigners and people all over the country. I think they are connected. It’s normal to get up, but in turn, we believe that at least our original intention has never connected these two things. We ourselves hope to show the wonderful side of this city to the people of the whole country, and even people from all walks of life around the world. From this consideration, we did this thing.
Bai Yansong:
In fact, Dongguan is now facing a big challenge, not only internal development, but also an external image problem. You may feel wronged. I think you said during the interview that you should not add any title to Dongguan. Dongguan is Dongguan. You talked about its many advantages. But now for many other places in China, when it comes to Dongguan, there are Many people will smile ambiguously. This kind of association is actually an image that needs to be rebuilt. How do you face it?
Yuan Baocheng:
Facing, accepting, handling, and letting go, as of today, I still think these eight words can answer this question. First of all, it is true that the image of Dongguan has already gone out. Whether we are wronged or admitted, if you do not face the impossible, can you not face it if people stand in front of you? So the second one is to accept it. The so-called acceptance does not mean that I personally accept the title itself, or that we have to accept some people who have been misunderstood in the country, including those who have opinions, or even scolding. Regardless of Dongguan, everyone already has this image. We have to accept this, but we have to deal with it in the end. As I mentioned earlier, in fact, Dongguan is a city with a history of 1700 years. With such a long culture, many outstanding characters, it has many good things in itself, including economy and society, including outstanding civilizations, individuals, many, many, When the misunderstanding of Dongguan is far greater than our positive image, we must deal with it well, and what do we rely on to deal with it? I think first of all, we should do a good job in economic development. The economy is up, and of course the second is to build a good spiritual civilization. Third, we still need to do a good job in social development, and finally, through our efforts, let everyone gradually regain a new understanding and understanding of this city.


Bai Yansong:
The last sentence is to let it go. In fact, it is even more difficult. Who should let it go? In your mind, did the people in Dongguan let it go or are we all able to let it go?
Yuan Baocheng:
First of all, as for ourselves, I remove this burden, pack lightly and do the job well, but at the same time, I believe that as time goes by, time itself is the best medicine to change everything, as long as we Work hard. I just said that as long as we do a good job of social and spiritual civilization, there will naturally be some new changes in a city. Naturally, people including the people of the whole country will put down this image at a certain time. If we The job is still not good, or as rampant as before, I believe no one will let it go, or no one will let you go.
Commentary:
Dongguan, a typical city where migrant workers gather, has a registered population of only 188 million, but a population of more than 600 million. Luo Haixia is one of them. At the age of 20, she went to Dongguan to apply for a job a year ago because she only had a high school education. She started her own growth as an assembly line worker in an enterprise producing speakers.
Luo Haixia:
There must be something to learn from the work experience, because I never knew anything at first, and then I learned slowly and walked step by step. It’s not easy to get to this day.
Commentary:
The work intensity of 10 hours a day, the monthly salary of less than 2500 yuan, in addition to the 300 yuan living expenses, the rest of Luo Haixia's income, all sent back to her hometown.
reporter:
What do you think of working here for more than a year?
Luo Haixia:
Anyway, I am very happy every day, and I am also more optimistic.
Commentary:
Like Luo Haixia, there are more than 2000 workers in this factory. Most of them are young people born in the 80s and 90s. For them, here, they pay more attention to the process of capital accumulation.
Employees of a company:
Thank you for giving me this platform. Because I just graduated, I am sure that the books are all theories. Give me this platform for practical operations. I have collected a lot of experience and knowledge about myself on the front line. I am very grateful for this.
Commentary:
Once, the title of a world-famous manufacturing city attracted more than 600 million migrant workers to Dongguan. Today, when the storm passes, how can Dongguan make breakthroughs? In 2014, Dongguan set an expected target of 9% GDP growth. Under pressure, can this target be achieved?
Bai Yansong:
This event must not be a good thing, it is a bad thing, but I can also feel that you have an idea, hoping that a bad thing can become a good thing, how can it become a thing, what are you doing for this?
Yuan Baocheng:
I think bad things turn into good things. I hope to put two quotation marks. Bad things themselves are bad things. Do you say that yellow is a good thing? Certainly this is not a good thing, but the bad thing we talked about has turned into a good thing, that is, the incident itself has not been hit. Through the development of our industries, especially our advanced manufacturing, our real economy, including our other various industries, When the industry develops well, a new industry is used to replace and replace these illegal industries. Naturally, good things will come. Therefore, when I talk about bad things, they need to be quoted.


Bai Yansong:
Many people will not pay attention to the number of going to Dongguan, the permanent population of Dongguan is 180 million.
Yuan Baocheng:
185 million.
Bai Yansong:
But now the population adds up to tens of millions, that is to say, more than 800 million people from all parts of the country have gathered in this city, so I have to explain them for them.
Yuan Baocheng:
I often say this, I said that we can't be sorry for them, we must treat them kindly, and let them live in this city more stable or more harmonious. There are nearly 70 non-Dongguan residents who are studying abroad. This number ranks second in the country, close to the first. So what should we do, we now each student, we give them a part of the financial subsidy, our social insurance Now we have done a lot of work. Our highest migrant workers can reach 50 medical insurance. This has not been achieved in many cities. What I said recently is that this population should not be taken as a burden. They are builders. People who contribute to this city.


Bai Yansong:
For many people, there will be Dongguan in their minds. For you, it is very different. In your mind, what color do you hope Dongguan is?
Yuan Baocheng:
I hope that this city, like the slogan of our Dongguan city, is called "Blooming new excitement every day". Specifically, in what way is it exciting? First of all, I think the industry is exciting, so recently we have made considerable efforts in this area. We have issued a document on the development of the real economy this year. Dongguan continues to hold high the banner of the real economy and become a strong city in the manufacturing industry in the country. This is the vitality of the industry. The second is the vitality of the city. Dongguan has two CBA teams. This year, both of them were destroyed. One was destroyed by Beijing and the other was destroyed by Xinjiang. However, they all entered the top four. Our Dongguan Hongyuan team It is the eight consecutive championships in history. Our badminton may win the championship this year. Our Sudirman Cup next year will be held in Dongguan. So the vitality of this city is very strong. You can see wherever you go, the city is very vibrant. The third is the harmony of our people. In fact, I think the biggest contradiction in the current society is that after the reform and opening up, a large number of rural people have moved to the city. How to make this city harmoniously coexist and achieve the harmonious symbiosis of this urban society, the best society The last one is ecological harmony. Last year, the overall PM2.5 was 48. On average, in two or three years, we will work hard to reduce PM2.5 to below 35. I believe in this city. I am still very concerned about the future. With confidence, I think it will develop better and better.
Bai Yansong:
Colorful if it's color?
Yuan Baocheng:
Wonderful is definitely not a color. If there is only one color, it is definitely not wonderful. Red, orange, yellow, green, blue, blue and purple. I think that every color, but the color is legal and reasonable, not illegal. color.